Authors Who Are Too Online
Mar. 20th, 2025 09:44 pmSo I was reading an interesting discussion started by a user on BlueSky that begins:
And goes on to explain some things that I've noticed as well about some recent books, though I'm not really sure I agree with the conclusion. I do think as a society we've been wrestling really hard with what is "real life" and whether or not the online can be considered "real life", and the denial that it is "real life" has actually been to our detriment in many ways when it comes to understanding how our society has gotten to the dark place where it is now.
I think maybe more of the problem than what this user is saying, rather than that these people lack experience outside of online forums -- maybe they do, or maybe they don't, I don't actually think that's the issue -- is that they are no longer keeping these behaviors siloed to online forums, which is a different matter. I think there is very much a faux pas of bringing the online into real life that is breaking down and some people are more comfortable with it and some people find it "cringe", to use an online word, while others who have never been very online have no idea what is going on because they have no idea the depths of depravity that the first two have experienced. I think in a lot of these cases these people are writing to a microculture, which would be fine, but maybe they don't understand how big or how small this microculture is because the internet has a way of obscuring numbers of these very basic things. The experience of not knowing how many people you are talking to would be rich to plunge the depths of, but it's kind of ignored... because we don't know, and there's a profit/political motive to keep us from knowing, in the form of bots.

But there's also the factor that due to the idea of these norms being siloed and their breakdown is that it kind of seems like maybe these writers do not know how to code-switch, or, possibly moreso, even think that code-switching is somehow immoral. If you read enough books and you read enough fanfiction, you begin to see that the way these two types of prose are written is slightly different, that they exist in different registers, and when you read an original novel that was previously fanfiction with the "fan" part scrubbed off, the register still remains and it's obvious to anyone familiar with it. Blogging is not the same type of writing as what you read in a novel, or what you read in a nonfiction book, either. Posting adeptly on a microblogging site is its own skill, and arguing online is yet another, though one of debatable value. And yet there are many writers who seem to be unable to switch between these forms of writing, and as this OP says, all their writing sounds like you're reading screeds from their blogs. Rather than respecting these different forms of writing as their own art forms, being able to change how you write from one form of media to another becomes dishonest.
And I think this might really be the crux of the matter. So much of this is about how annoyed even queer readers are that certain writers will transplant up-to-the-second overly-online queer microdiscourse into novels set three hundred years ago, or on another planet, or in an alternate universe inhabited strictly with fairies and unicorns. It doesn't make any sense, it destroys suspension of disbelief, and makes the story more difficult to read. However, the writer probably feels that to not include this would be dishonest, somehow, or otherwise morally bad. The piece is meant to be instructive, or an honest display of themselves and their writing identity, or something, meaning that the code-switch cannot happen. The friction between the two sets of norms cannot be smoothed out.
So I guess what I'm saying is that to navigate this skillfully in the way the OP thinks is better, one has to be, in online parlance, a norm-understander, at the very least, rather than it having to do specifically with how terminally online one is. I mean, I guess being terminally online does erode one's ability to understand outside norms, or people who are terminally online generally did not have a great understanding of outside norms to begin with, but I don't think it's quite as one-to-one as suggested.
I don't know, it's hard to formulate all of my thoughts on this. There's a lot. It's getting late.
Share a thought about writing some may find controversial?
Outliers aside, I think the quality of any text is roughly proportional to the amount of time its author is plugged online, especially in social media.
And goes on to explain some things that I've noticed as well about some recent books, though I'm not really sure I agree with the conclusion. I do think as a society we've been wrestling really hard with what is "real life" and whether or not the online can be considered "real life", and the denial that it is "real life" has actually been to our detriment in many ways when it comes to understanding how our society has gotten to the dark place where it is now.
I think maybe more of the problem than what this user is saying, rather than that these people lack experience outside of online forums -- maybe they do, or maybe they don't, I don't actually think that's the issue -- is that they are no longer keeping these behaviors siloed to online forums, which is a different matter. I think there is very much a faux pas of bringing the online into real life that is breaking down and some people are more comfortable with it and some people find it "cringe", to use an online word, while others who have never been very online have no idea what is going on because they have no idea the depths of depravity that the first two have experienced. I think in a lot of these cases these people are writing to a microculture, which would be fine, but maybe they don't understand how big or how small this microculture is because the internet has a way of obscuring numbers of these very basic things. The experience of not knowing how many people you are talking to would be rich to plunge the depths of, but it's kind of ignored... because we don't know, and there's a profit/political motive to keep us from knowing, in the form of bots.

But there's also the factor that due to the idea of these norms being siloed and their breakdown is that it kind of seems like maybe these writers do not know how to code-switch, or, possibly moreso, even think that code-switching is somehow immoral. If you read enough books and you read enough fanfiction, you begin to see that the way these two types of prose are written is slightly different, that they exist in different registers, and when you read an original novel that was previously fanfiction with the "fan" part scrubbed off, the register still remains and it's obvious to anyone familiar with it. Blogging is not the same type of writing as what you read in a novel, or what you read in a nonfiction book, either. Posting adeptly on a microblogging site is its own skill, and arguing online is yet another, though one of debatable value. And yet there are many writers who seem to be unable to switch between these forms of writing, and as this OP says, all their writing sounds like you're reading screeds from their blogs. Rather than respecting these different forms of writing as their own art forms, being able to change how you write from one form of media to another becomes dishonest.
And I think this might really be the crux of the matter. So much of this is about how annoyed even queer readers are that certain writers will transplant up-to-the-second overly-online queer microdiscourse into novels set three hundred years ago, or on another planet, or in an alternate universe inhabited strictly with fairies and unicorns. It doesn't make any sense, it destroys suspension of disbelief, and makes the story more difficult to read. However, the writer probably feels that to not include this would be dishonest, somehow, or otherwise morally bad. The piece is meant to be instructive, or an honest display of themselves and their writing identity, or something, meaning that the code-switch cannot happen. The friction between the two sets of norms cannot be smoothed out.
So I guess what I'm saying is that to navigate this skillfully in the way the OP thinks is better, one has to be, in online parlance, a norm-understander, at the very least, rather than it having to do specifically with how terminally online one is. I mean, I guess being terminally online does erode one's ability to understand outside norms, or people who are terminally online generally did not have a great understanding of outside norms to begin with, but I don't think it's quite as one-to-one as suggested.
I don't know, it's hard to formulate all of my thoughts on this. There's a lot. It's getting late.